Normalize It Forward - Marc Lehman | Monica Wizinski | Mental Health And Wellness

 

Mental health and wellness are more than buzzwords; they’re the very foundation of a life lived fully and joyfully. In this powerful and heartfelt conversation, we journey into the core of well-being with Monica Wizinski, a masterful professional coach who’s made it her mission to help people reconnect with their authentic selves. With her deep expertise in conflict resolution and a remarkable talent for listening between the lines, Monica guides us through the complexities of modern life, particularly for young adults navigating a world that’s constantly buzzing. We discuss the significance of crafting a personal “village” of support, the art of slowing down amidst the chaos, and the undeniable truth that self-care isn’t selfish—it’s a necessity. Prepare for tangible advice on managing the noise, discovering real joy, and embracing the power of presence in a world that insists on speed. Monica illuminates the path to finding your inner center and cultivating a sense of peace that radiates outward, affecting every aspect of your life. If you’re seeking a way to anchor yourself in this whirlwind of existence and build a lasting sense of well-being, this episode is your compass to a more centered, vibrant, and truly healthy you.

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Mental Health & Wellness: A Guide To A Balanced Life With Monica Wizinski

We are here to have an open conversation about mental health and wellness. We welcome Monica Wizinski. How are you?

I’m great. How are you?

Good. Thank you. Monica is a professional coach specializing in personal growth, conflict management, and organizational development. With a background in mediation and deep listening techniques, she’s dedicated to helping individuals gain clarity and enhanced communication and achieve a balanced work-life integration. Through her coaching practice, Monica offers a supportive environment for clients to explore their aspirations and overcome limiting beliefs. She’s active on social media, sharing insights and promoting self-healing and growth. Monica, welcome to the show. How are you?

I’m great. Thank you again. That was a great intro. I’m happy to be here to talk about mental health and wellness with you. It’s such an important topic. I feel that the more we talk about it, the better it is.

Demystifying The Life Coach: Navigating Change & Building Confidence

I agree. Let’s jump in. A lot of my readers may have questions as to what a life coach is. Do you want to take that on and let us know, or give us a sense?

 

Normalize It Forward - Marc Lehman | Monica Wizinski | Mental Health And Wellness

 

Sure. As a life coach, one of the things that is very helpful is to help guide people to navigate through change and transition and also help them develop concrete, practical tools about how they can have greater self-confidence in their life, how they can navigate challenges, and how they can improve their relationships with building communication skills.

It’s quite a vast field. Some of us coaches specialize in different areas. In my case, because I’ve worked a lot with conflict resolution and that kind of thing, I found it was a natural progression of moving people from conflict or uncertainty into a little bit more clarity and forward movement. A lot of this is based on self-leadership, which is something that I advocate for. I feel that with building the right tools and creating the right structure around ourselves, we can feel well supported to make smooth and easy transitions that help us move forward and elevate into what we want and what we’re looking for in our lives.

Building Your Village & Taming The Pressure Cooker

Thank you for that description. That was great. My head was thinking about a number of transitions. I suppose at some point, we could all use a life coach to help us.

We should all have a life coach. We should all have a massage therapist.

I agree.

I don’t like to say should, but the more support and the more infrastructure that you can create in your own life builds your village or your community. These are difficult times for so many reasons. It’s very fast-moving. There’s so much disconnect that’s happening. I feel that any movement that you can make towards a greater connection is important. Many years ago, people raised children in little villages. We had a family. Everyone was part of a greater community. How, in these times, can we build more community, more connection, and more support, and help each other?

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That’s a great point. I feel like we need to get back to that in some ways. Everybody is siloed, and our mental health is suffering as a result of that. I’m curious. You’re located up in Canada. Down here in the States, the statistics on mental health, especially for young people, aren’t pretty. Anxiety is way up. Depression is way up. Suicidality is way up. Can you give us a sense? Are those numbers mirrored in Canada? Are they different in Canada?

I don’t know the numbers exactly. I even have clients who are university students who are looking for clarity and trying to understand how to deal with pressure and how to also regulate their family lives and their relationships. There’s so much going on, like hormonal stuff and everything. We have a lot of expectations because things are moving so quickly. We are placing a lot of pressure, often unnecessary pressure, and then there’s no outlet for how to cope or manage within that. It all starts with the family structure, so it starts young. It all begins there.

Sometimes, as kids are changing and they’re no longer babies anymore, and suddenly, they’re becoming adults, as parents, we don’t know how to cope. It’s difficult. We’re all always working. Everyone’s busy, and then everyone’s disconnected. We’re lucky if we’re getting a meal around the family together. We’re lucky if we’re sitting and having nice heart-to-heart conversations. We’re losing the simplicity of things.

Sometimes, it’s the little actions that make so much of a difference in a relationship. Whether you’re talking about a family relationship between parents, you’re in a professional setting in the workplace, or you’re in a relationship with your love partner, sometimes, it’s the little things of a little helpful hand, allowing people to know that you’re there and you’re present, and listening and being present.

We’re always about production, achievement, and moving forward, but it becomes very mechanical. It’s not coming from the heart. The heart gets missing in all of this, even though the heart is in the right place in most cases, We all want the best, but how do we move from that place of every day stuff, busyness, pressure, overwhelm, and stress into a place where there’s expansion, curiosity, and a little bit more stepping back and being open to understanding and hearing the person that we’re with in a relationship with? That could be a parent-child relationship. It could be in the workplace. It could be with your professors. It could be with your boyfriend, girlfriend, or anyone else.

Those are such great suggestions. On a large scale, we need to slow down. I present a lot to families online, teach classes, and so forth. One of the things I noticed that’s laced within all of my presentations is listening more than talking. My kids are 24 and 22. When they were born, I remember for a moment thinking, “I can take them home? You’re going to trust me?” As parents, we don’t know anything. It’s like on-the-job learning constantly.

Your point is good in that we’re learning how to do these things at every stage. When we get one stage down, we move on to the next one. Even more, there’s a lot of pressure on young people. It becomes, in some ways, our job at home to do what we can to relieve that pressure and give them some space to not feel so intense all the time and not feel like they’re chasing something. I’m not even sure what they’re chasing.

Self-Care As Self-Leadership: Finding What You Need Right Now

That’s making me think of something when you’re speaking about that. There is that responsibility that we have to the loved ones around us and the presence that we need to provide, but it also comes back a lot to our own selves. What I mean by that is there are so many amazing tools and tricks out there in terms of mindfulness.

Let’s say as parents, or if we’re going to even talk about our own selves and what we’ve all been through, and even for youth, for teens, or for anybody, it’s taking a moment to find out, “What do I need right now? Do I need to take a break from this situation? Do I need to step out? Do I need help? Do I need to take a breath for five minutes and come back to it? Do I need to explain myself?” It’s so tricky.

Using tools like mindfulness is something that is supportive in the process of slowing down. I know I go a mile a minute all the time, but I also know when to stop. I have scheduled stops and breaks with myself where I eat, do yoga, breathe, journal, connect with myself, get somatic therapy, or whatever it takes to be in touch with myself and what is happening. This is something that’s so accessible and available. I feel that as role models are in a relationship, a lot of it is role modeling also, so the other individual that we are in a relationship with can also feed off of that.

Beyond The Buzz: Real Self-Care For Mental & Physical Wellness

It’s a great point. It’s something I talk a lot about on the show, which is self-care. Self-care is something that, clearly, you and I do to give ourselves some room because if we are moving intensely throughout the day and we don’t do that, our own mental health and wellness suffer. That’s not only important for parents and partners, but it is also important for young kids to understand. If you are going to move intensely throughout your day and you don’t have any way to let the air out of your tires, at some point, your tires are going to explode.

 

Normalize It Forward - Marc Lehman | Monica Wizinski | Mental Health And Wellness

 

Turn it off.

You made some great suggestions. Breaks from technology are super helpful.

They’re important.

When you think of self-care, especially for young adults, what else comes to mind?

It is fitness and health, like eating properly and sleeping well, which also is related to the social media stuff. A lot of students are not taking the time to feed themselves. It could be simple things like having a little breakfast, getting in your meals for the day, and drinking your water. It could be all the basic stuff of going out for a quick jog and maybe joining something that raises funds for charity. You can run or you can support others. Be involved in tennis or play a sport.

Whatever it is, you need to have a physical outlet. It’s so critical. I realize that more and more as time goes on and the more and more people I speak to and coach. It’s that balance of physical, mental, and emotional that comes together in one whole picture. If one area is lacking and suffering, then all the areas are being depleted.

Feed your body. Do self-care. There are classes out there. There are retreats. When I was 17 and 18, I was going on meditation retreats. It was weird then, but now it’s not weird at all. Yoga was crazy back then. People were like, “What? You do yoga? What do you do? Twist yourself?” Now, there are 45 million different kinds of yoga, and everyone does it. It is about having mindfulness.

Mindfulness is any activity that allows for self-reflection, alone time, thoughtfulness, slowing down, having some soup, hot chocolate, or something on a cold day, and saying, “What do I need right now?” It could be talking to a friend and looking at who my close ones are and who the people are that matter. Sometimes, we spread ourselves all over the place. It’s like peanut butter on toast. We can’t be everywhere. We can’t do everything. We have to recharge, unplug at times like a battery, a computer, or anything else, and reset.

 

Normalize It Forward - Marc Lehman | Monica Wizinski | Mental Health And Wellness

 

It’s different for everyone. For some people, it’s external. They like to go out and do stuff, and that charges them. Other people like to do internal, quiet things like take a bubble bath and journal or something like that. It is whatever it is that feeds and nourishes you. It is finding how to come back to your reset and how to come back to your center, so you have a sense of mindfulness and you’re able to keep going on and take a break when you need it.

That could be the best definition of self-care I’ve heard. From my perspective, for young adults, it can’t be scrolling. It can’t be social media. It has to be something for themselves. I always tell young people, “Find one thing. Find a place to start.” Maybe it’s water. Do you know how many kids out there are walking around dehydrated? Get a decent amount of water.

That makes you so tired.

Get decent water intake for a week and tell me how you feel.

It’s a simple thing.

There was so much of what you said. I’m hoping my audience reads something and they’re like, “I’m going to try that.” There’s journaling, yoga, meditation, breathwork, water, and exercise. Exercise is huge. There are so many forms of it.

Who doesn’t want to love and take care of themselves? The problem with social media is that there’s so much pressure. There are expectations, comparisons, and competition. It is and it isn’t real, so it’s confusing. The one thing we can do in North America is to find your center and be your individual self. How do you stay in the center of the storm? How do you stay grounded?

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There’s crazy stuff happening on this corner. Someone is going through a lot as a friend, and you want to be helpful and supportive. Your parents are putting this kind of pressure on you. There’s this expectation to do well, succeed, and be successful. There are a lot of moving parts, so find your ground. Find your center and breathe. Maybe it sounds like hippie stuff, but it works.

The Chase Without A Target: Understanding The Modern Intensity

Whether it’s hippie stuff or not, it works. I’m curious. Like me, you work with students as well as what we’ll call post-students or employees in the field, if you will, out in the community. I’m curious about your viewpoint on this. In my 25-year career, I’ve noticed the intensity and the chase from young people getting worse. I’m not even sure what they’re chasing, I’ll be honest. Maybe it’s a better school or a better job. They think it’s happiness, but it’s not. They’re not chasing happiness. I’m curious. What have you noticed in your career? How has that changed in the last many years?

Everything’s so much faster. When you’re going fast, you have to keep up. I grew up in a generation where we played hockey on the street. We were running around to people’s houses. Everything was different. Now, we’re safety conscious a lot more, which is okay and fine, but there are a lot of measures in place. It’s more sophisticated and more complex. The whole world is more complex. The things that my younger children know about, I didn’t know about until I was much older. We’re being exposed to so much more information download, and there’s so much more consumption.

That is true.

The opposite of consumption is creativity or production. If I can get a little philosophical for a moment, it’s like waves, the contraction, expansion, consumption, creativity, and output. We all want the same things. From kids to grown-ups, we all want to be able to be seen, heard, valued, and understood, to share our stories, and to live in peace and harmony.

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That sounds great.

It’s all there, the extreme pressure, extreme uncertainty, and confusion. It’s a whirlwind. It’s a crazy world out there.

That’s well said. The pace is tremendously faster. I was reminiscing as you were talking about the way you grew up. That’s the way I grew up. That’s the way a lot of adults grew up. It’s not the way kids are growing up. There’s an intensity to the number of activities kids are involved in. A 4.0 is no longer good enough. It doesn’t stop. At some point, we’re going to have a 5.5 or a 6.5. I don’t know.

I watch the suffering that happens as a result. You’re asking kids to be perfect in some ways, and there’s no such thing. When you have a kid who’s doing three activities simultaneously or when you have a kid who’s trying to bust their butt doing well in school and they’re doing their best, but their best isn’t good enough, there’s suffering that happens.

Anxiety and depression are huge in our world. I’m watching kid after kid talking about it in my office. They’re talking about their friends who are suffering. A lot of parents are looking for, “What can we do?” One thing we can do is be mindful of that and realize we’ve got a little control over how much we sign our kids up for. We’ve got a little control over what our own expectations of grades and school are. I had a parent in my office, and it was so refreshing to hear. He said, “I don’t care about your grades. I care about how much effort you’re putting in.”

That’s beautiful.

He said, “If you’re doing your best, I’m fine with it,” which was refreshing.

It is nice to see that type of attitude, which is having a little bit more compassion, understanding, and easing off on the reins. There are a lot of these helicopter parents. Even if you were horseback riding or something and the rein is that tight, the poor animal is going to be acting up, and you’re not going to get the flow that you want to achieve.

I’m imagining. I don’t know. 99% of parents want the best for their kids, but how do you create that environment? What is their part in that? I feel a part of it is that step back, listening, and not bulldozing. You’re not rolling them down the hill and telling them what they need to be doing. We have to respect one another. Respect is almost a loss.

Don’t say that.

We’ve got to keep it going.

I hear you.

Simplifying Life: Reconnecting With What Truly Matters

We have choices. As a child or a parent, there could be a big conflict or a big difference where somebody wants this for you and sees with their own experience, wisdom, knowledge, and everything else what they believe is best. Then, there’s a blossoming whole person who has their own preferences and has had them since they were two years old. They liked tomatoes or didn’t like tomatoes. We have to step back, listen, be curious, and also take the moment to see how we can ask more questions and try to find common ground.

Those are all great suggestions. I walk the line. I don’t want to come off sounding like I’m blaming parents because I’m not. I’m a parent. What we’re doing is we’re making suggestions. Some parents want to know, “What can I do differently to assist?” Pulling back is hard or scary for some parents because they assume, “If I pull back, then my son or my daughter won’t step up.”

Mind you, I had a strict mother. My father was like, “You got 5 out of 10. You got half right. That’s incredible.” It was the glass half-full. She was like, “What? You got 9.5? What happened? Is there a problem? What have I done wrong?” At least I had that little balance there. It’s not about perfection. It’s about keeping progress happening and connecting with your child in simple things. It’s not always about serious conversations about where you are going in your life and who you are with. It’s not always the heavy stuff. It’s sitting around at the dinner table or watching a TV show and having a chit-chat.

It is allowing openness to be there so that they know they can turn to you in hard times. It is being there and having those conversations in the car when you’re driving to an activity and not always making it about, “How was school? What happened today?” They’re like, “I had a hard exam,” and you’re like, “I told you to study.” Stop and listen. Be mindful. Step back, be more curious, and say, “How did that make you feel? What would you have done better?” Ask more questions and stop feeding and telling. I feel like I’m against the parents, but I’m not.

It’s a great suggestion, though, because some parents will ask in such a closed way. They get a closed answer, and they’ll say, “My kid doesn’t talk to me.”

Be there and do stuff with your kids, too. We’re so busy. The parents work so hard. It’s tricky to balance all the stuff of life for all of us. Remember how you used to go cross-country skiing. Remember how you used to go fishing together. Do those things from time to time. If it’s art, then do that. Find some bonding activities that are not related to success, progress, perfection, and the future. Be present.

Be present and spend time. That’s a great suggestion. That leads to my next topic that I wanted to ask you about, and that’s time management. I feel like poor time management for a lot of young people leads to a lot of anxiety. A lot of adults could work on this as well. I’m curious. I’m sure that’s a topic that you’ve worked on with individuals. What have you noticed in the past that has been a helpful suggestion or tip around time management?

Time Hacks & Joyful Breaks: Conquering Procrastination & Finding Enjoyment

There are two ways. First of all, a lot of people will do all their little tasks first. You make a list, go through it, check things off, and then say, “Eventually, I’m going to get to this big thing. I have to do the dooming thing that is on my back that is the dark, dooming essay I have to write,” or whatever it is. It’s the reverse that’s true. Take the first 90 minutes of your day or even 1 hour with your tea and sit down, write, and do the difficult thing a little bit. It’s a drop in the bucket. Don’t leave it to the last minute. If you don’t want pressure, you know it’s going to happen.

A lot of it is scheduling things. There are calendars, tools, and so many apps out there that can help you. There are coaches who can help you. It’s also focusing on your day and when you’re most effective. If some people work well at night, after supper, they can plow through doing whatever it is they need to do. Other people are morning people, and they function in the day. Try to think about when you function best and schedule important stuff. You can do all the other things later, the quick things.

Those are great suggestions. Many of my students come to me and they’re self-disclosed procrastinators. I procrastinate. I get it. Everybody does, to some degree. We all know where that goes. We all know if we push something off, it doesn’t magically get done. We have to do it anyway. I like what you said, which is chipping away at it.

There are a ton of good task-related apps out there. None come to mind, but I’ve had so many people use so many different apps over the years. I suggest to my audience to think about whether there is something out there that you could use as a tool that might help keep you in check, chunk it up a little bit, and face that difficult item that we’re looking to avoid. Every student knows what that means. I would imagine in the working world, too. Those are the kinds of things that, if they haven’t been resolved, they come back up.

They do come back and haunt you. It’s nice to build that resilience up. Remember the amazing feeling you’re going to have when you know it’s done. That builds more and more confidence. Refer back to those episodes of those situations where you accomplished something great that was not necessarily easy to do and was big, and you did it. Refer to how you got through it. Referring to those reference points is also a helpful tool.

Let me ask. I know you’ve got kids. Do you have a couple of kids?

I have a boy and a girl.

As do I. Let’s eliminate them for a minute and ask this next question. Enjoyment. I feel like for young people, enjoyment is overlooked. They might even look at us and go, “They don’t enjoy life.” I’m curious. What’s your go-to? What do you enjoy on a day-to-day? If you have some free time, what do you enjoy?

Daily Enjoyment & Future Insights: Finding Happiness & Next Steps

I have to tell you that it is the most beautiful question because enjoyment is so overlooked on a daily basis. I get enjoyment out of being with my family. Being with my loved ones gives me a lot of joy. I also have to be in that state of mindfulness where my head is clear. What I do is I intentionally have to put my phone away. Even I, as an adult, put my phone away because otherwise, I want to text myself another reminder or say, “I have to check this quickly.”

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Be here. Be now with the presence of these people, these humans that I love so much and that feed me on such a deep level. There are no words for it. It happens immediately. I get enjoyment out of being with my family. I get enjoyment from doing activities that recharge me. I seek that out. People that I find fun to be with, are very supportive, or are wonderful, cool people that I love being with, I will spend some concentrated, designated time with them. I know it’s very compartmentalized, but it has to be. I take that and savor all the diamonds from that. That charges me for a couple of days.

I love it. It’s compartmentalized because it’s strategic. You want to make sure that you enjoy life. For me, it’s music. I love music. Sometimes, I’ll combine that with going to a concert with my family, music with exercise, a spin class, or something like that. For me, that is an enjoyable thing. Even if I have five minutes to listen to a great song, I’ll do that because that creates enjoyment for me.

Everybody should have several go-tos. Those are things that create enjoyment for you. For my readers, I ask that you guys think about it. Think about what your go-to is. I would expect it would be different than ours, but I would hope that if you don’t have one, you’d find one. Enjoyment is something that is overlooked. Honestly, if they’re not strategic, they may not be focusing on it, which is problematic.

Last question. I’m going to put you on the spot for this one, but this is a good question to ask. Part of the show is I like to have the conversation continue to move forward, so I usually will ask my guests to nominate a friend, a coworker, or a relative who you’d think would be good for me to interview next. Do you have a sense of who you’d like to nominate?

I have three ideas. I’m not exactly sure which one.

You can nominate all three. That’s fine.

I’m going to nominate a gentleman named Scott Simons who works in health and wellness. He is a very interesting person who I know practices what he preaches a lot. He’s involved in building something called the Be Human Club. It’s growing. He’s an entrepreneur. He’s worked a lot with companies and individuals, providing meditation, yoga, retreats, and all things fitness. He’s had an interesting background, where he has a lot that he can connect to in terms of mental health.

That’s fantastic.

I also have a lady by the name of Randy Brandman. Randy Brandman is the School Counselor at St. George’s here in Montreal. She’s a wonderful experience. She works with youth as the school counselor. She’s a very wise, knowledgeable, fun, and relatable person. She’s also a parent. I can go on. I have a lot of contact, so I don’t know where you want to go with this.

I have another friend who is a life coach. He has formally and probably still does his work as a suicide prevention group leader and trainer for many years. He has dealt mainly with the recovery groups for parents who have lost a child and also with people who have been in deep depression, and is working with suicide. He’s veering a little bit more into coaching, but he also still has that. That’s been a volunteer position for quite a long time.

That’s fantastic. His name?

Greg Kligman.

I appreciate this. Let’s get them all on the show. That’s the way I look at it. They all have amazing perspectives. The more the merrier. We can continue to have this conversation. To me, it’s important that young people are reading about us adults talking about this and normalizing the topic because it’s here and it’s a part of their world. I appreciate your time. Those of you looking up Monica, it’s Monica Wiz for short. Would you want to give us your website and your information so people could look you up?

Yes. It’s MonicaWiz.com. I’m on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

That’s fantastic. If you’re interested, reach out, certainly. Those of you who have an interest in connecting with us know where to find us on UAreHeard.com. Again, thanks for your time. I appreciate it.

Thanks so much.

Have a wonderful rest of your day. Take care.

Thank you. Bye.

Bye.

 

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About Monica Wizinski

Normalize It Forward - Marc Lehman | Monica Wizinski | Mental Health And WellnessMonica Wizinski is a professional coach specializing in personal growth, conflict management, and organizational development. With a background in mediation and deep-listening techniques, she is dedicated to helping individuals gain clarity, enhance communication, and achieve a balanced work-life integration.

Through her coaching practice, Monica offers a supportive environment for clients to explore their aspirations and overcome limiting beliefs. She is active on social media platforms, sharing insights and promoting self-healing and growth.

 

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Normalize It Forward | Randy Spelling | Self Care

 

Self-care is not selfish. It’s essential. In this episode, life coach Randy Spelling joins Marc Lehman for a candid conversation about self-care and mental health. They dive deep into how self-care is more than just indulgent moments; it encompasses setting boundaries and finding simple joys like a refreshing walk to clear the mind. They discuss the challenges faced by today’s youth, including rising anxiety levels and the impact of digital communication on real-life interactions. Tune in for insights that inspire a healthier, more fulfilling life!

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Embracing Life’s Challenges Through Self-Care With Randy Spelling

Introduction

We are meeting with Randy Spelling. Randy, thank you so much for joining us and taking the time. How’s the weather out your way?

It’s beautiful. It’s probably in the high 70s. It’s going to be in the low 80s. I can’t complain. What about you?

It’s a little warmer than that. It’s about 95 out here. A little warmer than I would prefer but that’s okay, indoor and air conditioning. We’re all good. Out this way, we usually get those temperatures a bit in the summertime. Randy, let me introduce you a bit and I’d love to hear a little bit more about who we are and what you do. Randy is a life coach. I know you’re a former actor. Randy, I have just to admit, I turned on to your show which I love, by the way. Randy runs a show with Brian Austin Green and I believe Brian’s fiancé, Sharna Burgess. It’s called Oldish. We would love to hear more about that and other things that you’re up to you.

I’ve known Brian for what feels like 30 years, but we’ve known each other a long time. He called me out of the blue and said, “I’m watching your videos on Instagram and I’m inspired. Would you do a show with me? I have this idea.” It was to make an impact, reach people, and answer questions that at this age, we say that it’s not an age but it’s seasoned in life that you get to where you start to ask, what is this all about? Why am I here? Is this it? Can I make my days better? Can I do something to feel better?

A lot of what I’m sure we’re going to talk about is normalizing things such as having a bad day, being down, and is there some form of depression. We’re not diagnosing anything but we’re bringing on experts. I’m helping people to have the conversation, ask the right questions and also have some fun and entertainment value while doing it, but to start to tackle like how do I feel better on a daily basis? We know that if we feel better on a daily basis and we get more exercise, if we do some of the things that we know we should be doing and we check those boxes. It adds up no matter what age you are living a better life.

 

Normalize It Forward | Randy Spelling | Self Care

 

Self-Care

No doubt. I couldn’t have said it better and you’re right. What brings us together is the topic of mental health and wellness. No matter how old you are, everybody is susceptible and impacted in some way. Our challenge literally every day in our world is, what are some of those things that you can do? Even small things that you can do to take care and to let yourself feel better and ideally have a better path toward things. That brings me to my first topic I want to ask you about self-care, which I know you know a ton about. I wanted to ask you just your thoughts of like, when you hear the phrase self-care, what do you think of?

When I hear self-care, I think of ways to love myself more. I think of setting boundaries because boundaries are a huge form of self-care. It’s like self-care luxury getting in a bubble bath or getting a massage or getting your nails done. Self-care could be anything. For instance, I came in from work and jumped in to do dishes and dinner with my family. There were about four questions coming at me at once.

 

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At some point, my daughter was trying to make this new dish that she wanted to make. The kitchen was a mess and she said, “We don’t have this ingredient.” I said, “That’s okay. I’ll go to the store.” She said, “No, you don’t have to do it.” I said, “I want to do it. I need a walk.” I walked to the store and that four-minute walk was myself there because I could feel the tensity and the stress rising in me. I knew that that wouldn’t end.

It’s free and simple. I walked to the store but I used that for a minute to decompress, to take a look at trees. It sounds like a platitude here, but it’s amazing how getting out of your walls, prompts and voices can connect you to something different. That’s all we need, a rain change, a focus change, or a perspective change and that works wonders.

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You’re 100% right. As a therapist, I talk a lot about the five senses. The way we make sense of our world is through those five senses. If we shift and we change one of them, that’s why listening to music, going for a car ride or a walk and doing those things can make us feel different and oftentimes, better. Self-care comes in a lot of different shapes and sizes. Some of the little things that you just talked about, it was overlooked a lot by people.

 

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Simply setting those limits because like you, sometimes people will come home and they just simply want to be with their family. They don’t want to answer business calls or respond to emails. They want to have some time with their family. In order to do that, you have to go back to setting those limits. It becomes important.

It’s so funny when we talk about these self-care moments, whether they’re small things of going for a walk. It’s something I was saying to my daughter is just talking and saying how you feel is a form of self-care. Saying, “I’m struggling with something.” That’s huge to get out and you see this in your work. Writing is important. Talking is important. Getting anything out of your head and onto drawing, painting, or writing. Getting it out in some form is so incredibly impactful because otherwise, it’s like a pinball. It keeps going round and round and creates this pattern of pressure cooker.

We are self-caring but it’s like you can self-care in the wrong way and you can self-care in the right way. What I mean by that is reaching for your phone. We’re trying to self-care and self-soothe at that moment. It just might not lead to the feeling that you want. Vices and addiction or things like that. People reach for a drink or a cigarette or something.

That, funny enough, is someone trying to practice self-care. “I’m stressed.” “I had a hard day.” “Let me pour myself a cocktail.” That takes the edge off. It’s the way that we talked about it. After a while, when someone’s reaching for a drink and there’s no judgment here. It’s like every single day if you’re reaching for a drink to take the edge off. There can be other ways to do that. It just becomes the habituative.

Very well said. It’s important for people to think of it that way. As you said, there are things to reach for that are healthy and maybe aren’t but I do agree. Anxiety level is in everybody. I treat young adults. Anxiety levels in young adults are so high these days. Way higher than when we were kids. It becomes important to do what you said. It’s to figure out what works best for you.

I have some kids on college campuses. They’ll throw their earbuds in and they’ll walk further. Great. It clears your head. I have some kids that will smoke pot. Again, as you said, not the greatest option but they’re reaching for something to try to figure out a way to care for themselves. Ultimately, what they’re trying to do is to relieve stress.

Youth Anxiety

I want to ask you a question because I’m seeing this, too. I think everyone is starting to see this explosion of anxiety kids. It is amazing to hear the conversations, which I’m thankful for in one sense that there are these conversations happening. It’s more mainstream that kids can say, “I’m feeling anxious or I want to fidget with something or something’s not right.” It’s happening so much. It’s so prevalent. What do you think this is from?

It’s funny. It’s one of the questions I want to ask you.

We’ll ping pong.

I would answer by adding to it and then answering the question. That is, this generation is growing up with so much more around them. Here’s a great example. If you said to most people in their 40s and 50s, “When you were in high school, did you know of anybody who either tried to hurt themselves or completed taking their own life?” They would probably say no. Nowadays, if you say to a kid in their teams that same question. Not only did they know somebody. They’ve got several people on that list. That’s just the reality of their world.

They’re growing up around a lot more extreme depression, extreme anxiety, and extreme anxiety. I certainly don’t think phones have helped. In many ways, phones have created a lot of intensity for kids that isn’t necessary. Quite honestly, I would say to you, right back at what you said earlier. The fact that kids don’t interact this way as much as they had when we were younger has created a tremendous amount of stress and strain.

If I say to a kid, “You’re sixteen, let’s talk about going into a store to apply for a job or you’re nineteen, let’s talk about going back to see a professor for office hours or you’re 21, let’s talk about networking with someone in business.” Kids will frequently push back at me because they don’t like that direct interaction. They’d rather Snapchat or text. They like indirect interaction. Unfortunately, that creates a lot of pressure, stress, and strain. In life, you just simply need to be able to have that interaction. There’s certain things that require it and when those scenarios come up for kids, it’s hard.

Do you think that there’s anxiety and angst around having to have those interactions and it feels so uncomfortable that they’d rather just not engage at all?

I see it all the time. Here’s a great example. Kids go to college. You have a random roommate. That’s terrifying to some kids. You have all these random people in the hallways they don’t know. They’re going from a group of kids they knew in high school to nobody. That’s terrifying to most kids. Believe it or not, Randy, when I treat kids that go to college. They’re more worried about that than they thought about their classes.

I’m not surprised. Do you know how the whole introvert and extrovert thing became popular? You see phases. It’s like gaslighting. In the last couple of years, it is like all the rage and narcissism. I started to watch these trends having done this now for a long time. Introvert, extrovert, and empath became big thing. It’s interesting because this always existed. You have people who are more introverted. People who are more extroverted, but because of phones, the way that kids are communicating through text and not picking up the phone and talking and sitting in person.

It blew my mind. I was telling the story. I was talking to a teenager and she was showing me Snapchat. I wasn’t that familiar with it. I was asking these questions and she said, “This is how we hang out.” I said, “What do you mean?” She said, “We’ll be at a coffee shop. My friends and I will sit in a semi-circle or a circle all on Snapchat.” Their snapping. Whatever you call it, snapping each other in the circle. That isn’t mind blowing, so I wonder.

In terms of normalizing conversations, normalizing the fact that it can feel normal to be anxious about social situation. I feel anxious about social situations sometimes. I don’t like small talk. I can connect with people well. When I’m in a big party, the idea of going up to anyone and talking, I don’t love but I thought there was something wrong with me. I created a story around it and then narrative. Now, I made a deficit.

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I’m not going to want to step foot at a party for a long time because I was like, “There’s something wrong with me.” I’m bad or I’m not enough or I’m comparing to other people. Having more conversations like this and being able to say yes. For some people, this is easier. This is a skill. It takes practice. Other people are feeling this way and kick up the dust a little around this. We can normalize it and say, “Hey.” Not only is it normal. There’s tools for this.

You use the right word, skill. There are a lot of kids out there. I find most kids out there have to work at this. It’s not a natural thing to do. I’m still thinking about that example you gave. I picture a kid with like five phones at a table. We were groomed as kids to go out and play in the neighborhood and interact. Kids don’t do that anymore. When they get to a situation like a high school or a college. That is terrifying because they don’t have a lot of experience with it.

Here’s the cool thing. If they’re able to hang in there and give themselves and practice it, if you will, each day and have a willingness to join a club or join an activity and say hello. Even small little things instead of someone walking by you in the hallway. Say hi. Interact with them. Take those small steps. You start to see that kid begin to build that skill set, which is amazing. It’s truly amazing.

I have an idea. I think we should do a social experiment and have some tech that pops up emojis. AI is all the big rage. I would love to see the social experiment of kids who feel uncomfortable engaging in real life being able to communicate with emojis and they can talk. I wonder because everything is through text and there’s so much emoji and abbreviations. If that were a part of live interaction, would it make it more comfortable because it brings some of the comfort of the screen and the hiding behind in the way of communicating in real life?

It’s an interesting point. I certainly have kids with their parents. I’ll say sometimes, “Communication is important even if you have to start with text. Let’s start somewhere.” That becomes a pathway. You may be on to something. There are a lot of kids out there with social anxiety and just a resistance if you will to that connection.

You might be onto something. You might be a good link for some kids to be able to be able to make. I will say this, Randy, without something like that. Those kids that just walk by a kid in the hallway will literally sit down next to a kid in the classroom and not say a word. Those kids aren’t building that skill set and remain unhappy. You can see why a lot of young people struggle with that.

Post-COVID Wellness

Another interesting topic. You talk about trends. People talk about post-COVID constantly. I get it. That turned our world upside down and it affected things. Many individuals were in their homes and isolated. Many people lost family members and their jobs. It was a topsy-turvy time for the entire country. World, in many cases. When you think about wellness and you think about how wellness has changed from your perspective since COVID?

The landscape has changed a lot. I went from doing a lot of things in person, speaking gigs and whatever to doing mostly online. That has changed. Here’s how I see it. It’s like if you hear loud noises, if you’re around someone who yells a lot and you don’t like it. You might not know how it’s affecting you, but after a while even when there’s no yelling anymore. When you hear a loud noise, your nervous system flinches. Is it going to be someone yelling? Is it something bad? Am I in danger?

We all have enough information some more than others about trauma because that seems to be such a hot topic. It’s like there’s this trauma response that got activated through COVID. It hasn’t stopped because once it gets activated, then you have the political landscape. You have all of the polarization in everything. You have wars. You have live direct feeds of people being attacked or murdered. All these things, unfortunately, that are happening but the live feeds of seeing is just reactivating the fear and the stress response.

I feel like everyone is walking around like this, but the sun’s out. It’s just like we go back to life as normal. There’s all of these things happening in the background that are causing so much static. If we’re looking for solutions here, I tell people weekly, there’s no shame in turning off the news feed. You’re not a bad human being for not watching 24/7. Some people are like, “I’m being silent.” No, you’re taking care of yourself.

If you’re not taking care of yourself, it can be very hard for you to take care of those around you if you’re a parent or you’re a partner or you have to do things in the world. That’s okay. We talked about self-care. Go out and go for a walk. Unplug if you need to. Say no to things more. Say yes to things that fill you up and light you up. We have to prioritize this and put it like this. When you have a health crisis, you prioritize things pretty quickly.

I’m not labeling here. I think to a degree, we all can contend with having a health crisis. Some are more on the spectrum than others. Some are more in dire need, but if we look at it like this, I am having a health crisis. What do I need to do to care for myself better? What do I need to do to lower the threshold of stress because there is just too much? Even if you can’t see it, it’s not invisible. It doesn’t just go off and eaters. It has Innovative affecting and you will start seeing health things, unfortunately, in the coming months or years. We have to lower this threshold of stress because it’s too high for most people.

I would agree. I’m thinking about that. You mentioned the election. As I mentioned before, I treat a lot of kids on college campuses. In the last few months before their semesters ended, there were encampments popping up all over college campuses and talk about unpredictable. One kid said to me, “I didn’t see this on the tour.” These are scary things that are in their world that they have no control over.

Advice For Young People

To your point, trying to figure out something they do have control over and ways to manage that becomes critical. It just becomes so important. Probably a good segue. Let me ask you this. I feel like for many adults, our journey in life has involved a lot of suggestions and advice from people. I know, for me, I had several important mentors along the way that guided me well. Randy, if you were talking to young people directly. Is there a piece of advice that you’d want them thinking about and considering?

There’s so much. I think talking and expressing yourself cannot be overestimated. It just can’t. Daily, I have people of all ages who I’ll ask a question. They have probably thought about the answer a million times but saying it and hearing themselves say it out loud like we talked about. It gets it out of their head. Once it’s out, then they have the ability to go, “Do I want to read and digest that or not?” It’s like regurgitating something and going, “That’s what was in there? I don’t know if I wanted to do that.” Please don’t overestimate the power of speaking in witness of people.

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That can be a mentor, a therapist, a coach, friends, or family. Friends and family are always the best depending on how support is and non-neutral or neutral they can be but still, it is so vital. Another piece of advice I would say is just from growing older and yes, I have the show called Oldish, things change by decade. They do. I have two daughters and I will tell you what they go through as a kid and in middle school, coaching people and watching teens 20s or 30s. What you care about in high school, in your twenties starts to change as you change and grow.

There is a shedding like snakes and lizards when they shed their skin. You do shed skin over time. I hope to instill hope in the fact of waiting in the idea that if you can get through, if you can navigate through, learn some tools, regulate yourself, and navigate things better things can and will usually do get better if you’re just practicing a little awareness. Putting your head in the sand and not dealing with anything that you have to deal with yourself. You’ll have to deal with it at some point. Practicing a little awareness like we’re talking about and moving through. You will get to a different rest and then a different raft. All of the sudden, you’re on an island and, all of a sudden, you’re on land. You’re like, “I’m building a house.”

Moving in a good direction. I love that. That was a tough question I asked and you handled it well, Randy. The power of conversation is so important. I just find so many young people tend to hold everything up and in their hearts. They don’t let it out. What they often find, especially in my office, is when they do, now we can massage it, work with it, talk it through and come up with solutions.

It doesn’t have to be a therapist. It can be a coach. It can be as you mentioned a family member or a friend. It could be a lot of people, but find your person. Finding your person is so important. Randy, let me ask you this because I don’t want to take too much of your time. Part of the conversation what normalizes it forward is I hope to continue the conversation. I hope to help normalize mental health and wellness and give people an understanding of we are all susceptible. We are all dealing with these things. The more we talk about them, the easier they become. I often will ask for someone to nominate a friend, a co-worker, a relative, or someone who you think might be helpful for me to interview next so the conversation can continue. Can I put you on the spot and ask?

I have a friend in colleague and I just saw something that she posted. I thought of her. Her name is Sura Kim. Her handle is Surah Flow. She has been a coach for a long time and she’s moved into the meditation space. What I love about the work that she does is it’s approachable. One thing that I hear literally at least three times a week, “I know I should meditate more.” People always have this idea that meditation is such a staple of wellness, which it should be but the way to approach it feels so daunting. I love the work that she’s doing because it’s approachable and easy. I think it could help a lot of people.

I appreciate it. I find you tremendously approachable. Thank you so much for that. I will reach out to her and connect. Randy, please tell our readers where can they find you? Where can they find your show?

You could find me on Instagram at @RandySpelling. I have many offerings and things on my website. It’s RandySpelling.com and the show is Oldish. You could read it anywhere. We have a website where you can get more footage and different things. It’s on OldishPodcast.com and the first episode of Season Two comes out soon.

I can’t wait. I’ve been watching it. I’m excited to see Season Two. Randy, thank you so much for your time, energy, and your thoughts. I appreciate it.

Thank you. You, too. Good to talk with you.

Thank you. Take care.

Thank you.

 

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About Randy Spelling

Normalize It Forward | Randy Spelling | Self CareRandy Spelling is an American life coach, author, and former actor, best known for his work in helping individuals find purpose, fulfillment, and balance in their lives. As the son of legendary television producer Aaron Spelling, Randy grew up in the entertainment industry but later shifted his focus to personal development and wellness.

Through his coaching business, Randy Spelling Coaching, he guides clients in overcoming obstacles, building self-awareness, and achieving personal and professional growth. His approach emphasizes mindfulness, self-discovery, and practical strategies for living a more meaningful and authentic life.